A Little Fuzzy - How many devices can be connected?

[timlab55]

When growing up, 1 + 1 = 2 and not 22. Where does this lead me? Will, I've got a router that can only handle 25 devices (ASUS). I also have 5 more IP CCTV cameras that I need to add to this router to make it work. So how can I do it?

 

[dave14305]

Where does this 25 device limit come from?

 

[dave14305]

Adding context to this goofy thread:

Too many devices to handle?

I currently have the GS-AX5400 ASUS router. I think I have more devices that it can handle. So which way should I go?

www.snbforums.com

 

[timlab55]

That's the router I put away for a wifi 6/7 and wish I didn't. It states that it can handle up to 25 devices. But with the extra devices I have now, how can I add them? and still have the router not drop the ball on me or misplace devices that should be there?

 

[dave14305]

It states that it can handle up to 25 devices.

Where does it state this?

how can I add them?

You mean “join the WiFi network” or “plug into a LAN port”? What other “add” step are you referring to?

and still have the router not drop the ball on me or misplace devices that should be there

This is gibberish. Routers don’t drop balls or misplace things. Wireless connections might drop, router might reboot, processes might crash. You should describe what actually happens and is visible in the router’s system log when it happens if you want useful help or advice.

 

[timlab55]

There was a write up about this router on this fourm. My setup is that what ever router I do get, I have to put it behind my ATT gateway (IP passthrough). I have (in my house), 7 PC's, 1 tablet, 3 Smart TV's, and 2 phones. My house is 70' long (double wide), with 2 CCTV camera's on it. Then I have an Ethnet cable running from my house to my Barn. Then on my car port I have 7 CCTV cameras on it and 3 on my barn. Then I also have a DVR (using old CCTV) about 33 cameras. So what type of setup would you get?

 

[bbunge]

There was a write up about this router on this fourm. My setup is that what ever router I do get, I have to put it behind my ATT gateway (IP passthrough). I have (in my house), 7 PC's, 1 tablet, 3 Smart TV's, and 2 phones. My house is 70' long (double wide), with 2 CCTV camera's on it. Then I have an Ethnet cable running from my house to my Barn. Then on my car port I have 7 CCTV cameras on it and 3 on my barn. Then I also have a DVR (using old CCTV) about 33 cameras. So what type of setup would you get?

Sounds like what I run on an AX86U Pro.

 

[timlab55]

Okay, so either I'm not asking the right question. Well I decided to get the AX86U Pro. Should be here Tuesday, which once I get it setup, I will put my ATT Gateway into IP Passthrough Mode to the new router. I'm also getting an AP out in my barn. The AP I'm getting is the TP-Link EAP610-Outdoor Access Point (WIFI6 AX1800 Gigabit). According to the docs that I've read is that this thing has distances and the number of devices I can connect to it is 250 at once time. So my question is this:
If I hand 200 devices connected to this AP, how would the AX88U Pro see it? As 1 device or 200 devices? <-----Simple question
Thanks

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[Tech9]

As 1 device or 200 devices?

200

 

[Tech9]

EAP610-Outdoor

Careful with the included 48V Passive PoE adapter. If you connect something else to it other than this AP - this device is dead.

 

[timlab55]

Careful with the included 48V Passive PoE adapter. If you connect something else to it other than this AP - this device is dead.

This is the

Amcrest 6-Port POE+ Power Over Ethernet Switch with Metal Housing, 4-Ports POE+ 802.3at 65W that I'm going to plug it into. According to Google "Yes, you can use your Amcrest 6-port PoE switch with the TP-Link EAP610 access point. The EAP610 supports PoE+ and Passive PoE, and most PoE switches, including the Amcrest 6-port model, can provide power over Ethernet to the EAP610. "​

Unless you have some other info about this?

 

[timlab55]

200

According to Google, the RT-AX88U Pro can handle around 48 concurrent connections. That's a good thing because I have 26 devices for the whole system. I think I'm in really good shape. Unless of course you have some other type of info that I need to know.

 

[Tech9]

Unless you have some other info about this?

I have no idea what this Amcrest switch is going to be used for, but yes - it can power EAP610-Outdoor AP. The AP comes with Passive PoE adapter included in the box and also supports 802.3at PoE. What Google AI is generating for you is about expected wireless clients typical home router is expected to handle. This number may vary depending on how many are active. You have additional AP for more wireless clients support and you have ordered RT-AX86U Pro according to post #8 above, not RT-AX88U Pro.

Well I decided to get the AX86U Pro.

Based on previous conversations - don't count anything wired and cameras directly connected to NVR/DVR devices. They are not wireless devices. If you have multiple wireless cameras and they are using 2.4GHz band - a new router will improve nothing. The limitation is in available bandwidth on 2.4GHz band. Since I know very little about your network - can't recommend specific changes.

 

[timlab55]

Opps sorry 88

 

[Tech9]

Make the changes, see if the situation improves. As mentioned above I can't recommend hardware for an unknown to me network topology.

 

[timlab55]

Make the changes, see if the situation improves. As mentioned above I can't recommend hardware for an unknown to me network topology.

I have no idea what this Amcrest switch is going to be used for, but yes - it can power EAP610-Outdoor AP. The AP comes with Passive PoE adapter included in the box and also supports 802.3at PoE. What Google AI is generating for you is about expected wireless clients typical home router is expected to handle. This number may vary depending on how many are active. You have additional AP for more wireless clients support and you have ordered RT-AX86U Pro according to post #8 above, not RT-AX88U Pro.



Based on previous conversations - don't count anything wired and cameras directly connected to NVR/DVR devices. They are not wireless devices. If you have multiple wireless cameras and they are using 2.4GHz band - a new router will improve nothing. The limitation is in available bandwidth on 2.4GHz band. Since I know very little about your network - can't recommend specific changes.

First off, the Amcarest switch is being used for 1 camera, and then for the AP. I totally agree that you can only make recommendations, which is fine with me. I have 1 DVR (Barn), that has 25 cameras hooked up to it. Then I have 1 NVR that has 9 cameras hook up to it, but those cameras also have their own IP addresses. So those I have to count.

 

[Tech9]

All the cameras connected directly to their own DVR/NVR will be counted as 1 device on your network - the DVR/NVR. The cameras behind their respective management and storage device are on a different subnet and the traffic to this device is switched, not routed. Your main router has nothing to do with it. Outdoor AP with IP67 protection in the barn is a good choice, but I'm not sure why you need a new router (or your gateway to Internet) as well. The one you ordered is better than the one you have as hardware specifications, but may not improve anything on your LAN behind it.